several other banks are being investigated. -- not the last chapter of the saga. >> what strikes me most about all the extraordinary things in the story is that it was happening until 2010, after the financial crash, at which time you thought banks would know better. >> this whole libor of rigging scandal is a victim of this crime. it costs the integrity of the financial system, and it certainly does, but they were low balling rates, not high bolling, so they were bringing the benchmark down, so ordinary people are victims. >> the consumers might have liked it because their rates were low, but they were breaking the law. >> they were, and they were affecting a massive transfer of wealth over time from society to the banks, as they proved in many other fields.